OOXML Standardization has own page on Wikipedia

Re: OOXML Standardization has own page on Wikipedia

Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:31:14 +0000

hAl is a windows/Microsoft biased editor who abuses Wikipedia and gets other pro biased people to follow him. Anytime anything is placed against Microsoft hAl removes it or edits it to make it look like the source is biased against Microsoft. What needs to happen is a large group of editors needs to edit and stand up to him. Lone editors will not do any good, Microsoft has probably paid hAl and others to edit.

Re: OOXML Standardization has own page on Wikipedia

Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:14:55 +0000

hAl seems to be very active on the OSP wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Microsoft_Open_Specification_Promise&action=history

Re: OOXML Standardization has own page on Wikipedia

Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:15:34 +0000

If you want to know what I mean please have a look at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Open_Specification_Promise

Re: OOXML Standardization has own page on Wikipedia

Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:16:50 +0000

Shamlessly stealing Stegu's excellent explanation, I hereby coin Pieter's Law of Wikipedia Relevancy:

"The quality of a Wikipedia article is proportional to the age of the subject matter".

You got it right and I'd suggest this to Wikipedia as a guideline. A tag saying, [[warning: covers topical issues, will reflect last editor's bias and perhaps economic viewpoint of issue]]".

Re: OOXML Standardization has own page on Wikipedia

Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:39:06 +0000

The fundamental problem with Wikipedia is that it has an encyclopedic style and corresponding editing rules, but there are still attempts at publishing articles on current events. It simply does not befit an encyclopedia to contain news items. If people only realized that Wikipedia is something very different from a blog, we would be better off and not have these edit wars.

Wikipedia is the Web equivalent of a reference textbook, it's not a place for journalism or marketing.

Re: OOXML Standardization has own page on Wikipedia

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:03:15 +0000

The problem is that participants in the political struggle should not get into edit wars. In the summer I found it very important to factually improve the OOXML article that I wanted to be 'political neutral'. The problem is of course that people which have the appropriate knowledge took sides. You usually want to leave editing the wikipedia article to neutral observers but what do you do if the article is obviously hijacked by a party? Some Wikipedia editors entered pro-OOXML marketing gibber into the Open XML text that was not appropriate for a wikipedia article and aggressively defended the text against changes from en passent editors. In most cases this didn't improve the quality and made people angry. For instance the article contained slander against IBM which is possible for a campaign site or a blog but not for a wikipedia article. I found the wikipedia edit wars as an excellent method of the opponent to recruit new supporters for us.

They seem to have a ideal text and after any changes they move back into the direction of this text. For instance:

In 2004, governments and the European Union recommended to Microsoft that they publish and standardize their XML Office formats through a standardization organization.[5]

It was corrected several times as its factually wrong. The Commission didn't recommend, the EU IDABC Pegso committee did.

I guess some open source players will feel discomfort with beeing decribed as non-commercial:

The OSP enables both open source and commercial software to implement DIS 29500.

The article improved over time and will continue to improve, esp. when the political struggle is over.

It is again a tricky move to put the controversy in another article. And
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardization_of_Office_Open_XML
needs indeed improvements. But no one should join it as a warrior looking to participate in the edit war. But rather as a person seeking to stick the warriors to the rules of the game.

OOXML Standardization has own page on Wikipedia

Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:59:59 +0000

There is almost an "edit war" going on over at the Wikipedia article. Any experts on the sublect would be apprediated! Please help maintain the article in a readable state!

The article is called Standardization of Office Open XML. It was just loosely split from the Office Open XML page as the standardization is actually a stand-alone process. Please help! Thank you!