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		<title>Committee Stuffing also in the United States: 11 Microsoft Business Partners?</title>
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				<title>Re: Committee Stuffing also in the United States: 11 Microsoft Business Partners?</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Quoting Microsoft's Doug Mahugh ( he was talking about V1 stuffing accusations ):</p> <p><em>&quot;I contacted a couple of those partners myself, but I just picked up the phone and said &quot;hey, there's this committee that is discussing Open XML but nobody involved has actually implemented it from the spec and the debate is therefore 100% theoretical, so it would be great if somebody like yourself with actual hands-on experience got involved.&quot;</em><br /> (<br /> <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2007/08/30/oh-the-drama-of-it-all.aspx">http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2007/08/30/oh-the-drama-of-it-all.aspx</a> )</p> <p>!!!!</p> <p>Microsoft: What standard do you want to fast-track today? (tm)</p> <p>This people ( V1 Microsoft members ) are rushing the standard, don't reviewing it. They don't care in final users, just want to keep doing business selling Microsoft products. It's shameful that ISO is subject of such &quot;standardization by corporations&quot;.</p> <p>The Microsoft partners ( they represent more than 70% of the total members ) , have voted an non inexistent text ( ECMA is reorganizing the text as multipart, changing conformance structure, changing XML examples, changing scope ! , applying proposed dispositions, removing redundant normative text, changing again the date system , etc, etc ), and it supposed that fast-tracked standards are pre-reviewed and mature.</p> <p>Add to your list:</p> <p>1. BP -&gt; ECMA TC-45 (OOXML) member</p> <p>2. Microsoft -&gt; the OOXML &quot;perpetrator&quot; ( the father of the beast )</p> <p>3. <a href="http://www.realitymobile.com/">http://www.realitymobile.com/</a> Reality Mobile -&gt; flagship product transmit real-time video and geospatial coordinates WHAT THIS HAVE TO DO WITH OFFICE DOCUMENT STANDARDS ( this &quot;member&quot; approved unconditionally last year without ever contributing any comment, now it seems that have gone from V1 , GOOD WORK !!! thanks for contributing to standardization )</p> <p>4 <a href="http://www.fortifieddatacom.com/">http://www.fortifieddatacom.com/</a> Fortified DataCom: one of flagship products runs XP with MS Office, mentioned in [1] when the company was known as Z5 technologies&quot;</p> <p>[1] <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2007/07/09/open-xml-solution-demonstration-at-wpc.aspx">http://blogs.msdn.com/dmahugh/archive/2007/07/09/open-xml-solution-demonstration-at-wpc.aspx</a></p> 
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				<title>Re: Committee Stuffing also in the United States: 11 Microsoft Business Partners?</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Mimosa Systems: <a href="http://www.mimosasystems.com/html/news_PR_121807.htm">Awarded Microsoft ISV Star Partner Award</a></p> <p>3Sharp: <a href="https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/SDK/Solutions/SolutionsDirectory.aspx?sortby=partner_up&amp;page=1&amp;vertical=94fe10280f67405aa52569ed04c006f2">3Sharp is a Microsoft Certified Partner</a></p> <p>Mindjet: <a href="http://mindjetlabs.com/cs/blogs/synergist/archive/tags/Mindjet/default.aspx">is a Microsoft Gold Certified partner</a></p> <p>Xinnovation Inc: <a href="https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/Partners/PartnerDetailsView.aspx?partnerid=c9ccf79b153d46c1befaa262224a61e7">certified gold partner</a></p> <p>Revonet: <a href="https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/SDK/Partners/PartnerDetailsView.aspx?partnerid=ae2b2507901143429f232ccc49cad3dd">Registered Partner</a></p> <p>Advaiya: <a href="https://solutionfinder.microsoft.com/Partners/PartnerDetailsView.aspx?partnerid=ede0ee7a40cb40bf90a65b2b50256a4c">Registered Partner</a></p> <p>NextPage: <a href="http://www.nextpage.com/news/releases/pr_112105.htm">Partners with Microsoft to Standardize Microsoft Office Format</a></p> <p>Peters &amp; Associates: <a href="http://www.peters.com/partners/microsoft/default.aspx">Peters &amp; Associates is a Microsoft Gold Partner with five competencies in the Microsoft Program</a></p> 
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Arnaud Lehors of IBM is mentioning on his blog the <a href="http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/03/09/conflict-of-interest/#comments">conflict of interest</a> on the recent vote in INCITS:</p> <blockquote> <p>In the latest demonstration of <strong>how broken the process is the US V1 technical committee voted on Friday to recommend approval of OOXML in a 17-4 vote, where Microsoft and no fewer than 11 of its business partners voted in favor of the specification</strong>. Am I the only one to see a major conflict of interest at play in this?</p> </blockquote> <p>Here is the <a href="http://v1.incits.org/v1mem.htm">list of the members</a> of the committee:</p> <blockquote> <p>03/07/2008<br /> INCITS V1<br /> Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface</p> <p>3Sharp<br /> Advaiya<br /> Blackbird Technologies Inc<br /> BP Corporation North America Inc<br /> Farance Inc<br /> Fortified DataCom<br /> IBM Corporation<br /> Ligent<br /> Microsoft Corporation<br /> Mimosa Systems Inc<br /> Mindjet Corporation<br /> NextPage<br /> Oracle Corporation<br /> Patrick Durusau Inc<br /> Peters &amp; Associates<br /> Red Hat<br /> Revonet<br /> Sun Microsystems Inc<br /> Text Structure Consulting<br /> United States Dept of Defense / DISA<br /> Xinnovation Inc<br /> Y-12 National Security Complex</p> </blockquote> <p>Question for the readers: which companies are Microsoft Business Partners?</p> 
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